tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post6855917963199128849..comments2023-05-03T05:58:06.868-07:00Comments on Loving the Land of the Flour Tortilla: Residency vs. CitizenshipJillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00300316400083765147noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-47580335155043887822011-04-12T06:58:55.218-07:002011-04-12T06:58:55.218-07:00I was considering going for my citizenship here bu...I was considering going for my citizenship here but, now no. Like you said about being guilty until proven innocent is true, I heard on TV the other night from a Police Chief that here in Mexico they don't seek actual justice by finding who did the crime but, they find who is the easiest to blame.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094398763672345801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-76887682058370156842011-04-09T16:53:37.795-07:002011-04-09T16:53:37.795-07:00Jill, great post! After living here for 19 years,...Jill, great post! After living here for 19 years, I still have my FM3...I don't even want the FM2 because of how they count the days when you leave Mexico and you can't own a car with plates from the States. I know that once a year I need to renew my papers and it's no big deal. My husband always comes with me, so I don't mind.Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504491345989899525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-26330574633069652502011-04-07T19:26:16.186-07:002011-04-07T19:26:16.186-07:00Amanda--ooo--the retirement thing is a good point!...Amanda--ooo--the retirement thing is a good point! And what a relief to know that they don't share naturalization information! <br /><br />Your reasons for pursuing dual citizenship always sounded solid. Good luck with that, and I'm curious to hear how that goes for you!Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300316400083765147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-4144500449913145792011-04-05T13:59:27.309-07:002011-04-05T13:59:27.309-07:00Well I forgot to check to follow via e-mail so her...Well I forgot to check to follow via e-mail so here is the comment that will let me do that. ;)bordersasidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142674938117338592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-63105004173564363172011-04-05T13:58:46.274-07:002011-04-05T13:58:46.274-07:00Hey there, you obviously have brought up some very...Hey there, you obviously have brought up some very good points. I am one of the ones who plans persue my duel. First I want to say I do know someone who has and when she was investigating the fact of loosing her citizenship the point was brought in that Mexico never shares their citizen info with other countries. So basically the states would not be notified or anything and as long as you hold a current passport your welcome int he consulates and across the border. <br />The main reason I want mine is not for voting but more because I plan to live here the rest of my life including after I retire. Seeing as I am no longer gaining benefits in the US I want to be gaining them here. Same as in the US the aid given retires isn't much but its something and anything helps. Also I will be allowed the healthcare if ever I'm working and my husband is not for example. <br />I can totally see why you have chosen as you have and I love that you put that you respect the opinions of those who have chosen citizenship. <br />This was a great post and a topic I look forward to reading other comments about.bordersasidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142674938117338592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-91201788479050835972011-04-04T14:13:23.086-07:002011-04-04T14:13:23.086-07:00Anonimo--I've heard that assumption, too, and ...Anonimo--I've heard that assumption, too, and I've not no evidence to the contrary (that Mexico could revoke one's Mexican citizenship after one becomes a US citizen). <br /><br />However, I can't say that I really know anyone who's been in that situation, so I basically have no evidence either way. And it is an interesting situation. <br /><br />And really, for US citizens seeking dual citizenship in Mexico, I don't actually know anyone who has completed the process, either. However, the US being the US (and their wonderful immigration policies) has me a lot more nervous that they'd be much quicker to revoke someone's US citizenship were that citizen to become a naturalized Mexican citizen. <br /><br />But again, I no of no one who's been in that position, so maybe my fears are baseless. <br /><br />Karen--yup, I understand that, too. I'm hoping (and fairly confident) that if anything were to happen to my husband my in-laws would be an enormous help in settling any legal what-not that may arise. Furthermore, if my husband were to leave this world, we'd be packing up and heading to the US to be closer to my family. And I'd hate to run the risk of losing my US citizenship (and my right to enter the US) by being naturalized here, in case that situation were to happen. Terrifying. <br /><br />Rebecca--yup, yup, yup. And point #3 would be the one that Karen brought up, that any Mexican vote I'd be able to cast would just be so futile . . . sometimes it feels that way in the US, but then I hear my husband talking about Mexican politics, I realize that my US vote really does have so much more weight (and could possibly affect Mexico and Mexicans just as much as any vote I could cast as a Mexican . . . Oh, the US and your insane amounts of influence!).Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300316400083765147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-87874935616382610052011-04-03T16:24:36.551-07:002011-04-03T16:24:36.551-07:00We're under the impression that Mexicans who b...We're under the impression that Mexicans who become naturalized citizens in the USA don't neccesarily lose their Mexican citizenship. As there is no apparent Mexican restrictions for Mexicans who become US citizens, theoretically Mexicans naturalized in the US could maintain a Mexican passport and the priveledges thereto attached without question, and if that's the case, who's to know?<br />There are advantages for Mexicans who wish to retain their Mexican status, and some renounce it as a matter of formality, not patriotically.<br />Perhaps you or one of your readers could clarify.<br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-91650171162588917692011-04-01T18:04:39.958-07:002011-04-01T18:04:39.958-07:00Oh and I have been sitting on a post about this fo...Oh and I have been sitting on a post about this for over a month now so I guess I you have motivated me to finish it and post it. Not trying to be a copy-cat :)Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661863620210597991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-22387322250060764352011-04-01T17:56:18.980-07:002011-04-01T17:56:18.980-07:00Wow, that definitely made me think. I was consider...Wow, that definitely made me think. I was considering getting citizenship but then stopped after I saw Presunto Culpable. I asked myself if I really wanted to belong to a country with that sort of legal system. I am very opinionated about politics and vocal and I thought maybe with dual citizenship I could finally participate...but then I thought about that and decided that my vote wouldn't make an ounce of difference anyway. The only thing Im wondering about now is if something were to happen to my husband would I have problems because I'm not a citizen. I am on my 2nd prorroga with the FM2. I am thinking I'll just wait it out too. I am glad to have seen your post and the issues that could be raised with becoming naturalized.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661863620210597991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-88574211296951970732011-04-01T17:53:05.003-07:002011-04-01T17:53:05.003-07:00Este comentario ha sido eliminado por el autor.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661863620210597991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5273309159137296054.post-67307590438355798862011-04-01T16:26:16.908-07:002011-04-01T16:26:16.908-07:00I have no desire to ever pursue citizenship in MX ...I have no desire to ever pursue citizenship in MX for the exact reasons you stated.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610339513322780166noreply@blogger.com